A tale of the scammer that pretended to be Alice Little

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    This a tale of a scammer. A scammer I managed to keep on the hook for over a year and a half. It’s a long one, so I’ll tell it in multiple parts. This scammer was pretending to be Alice Little.

    Now, this is not the first fake Alice I’ve spoken to. In fact, I’ve chatted with a few others, and let the real Alice know about them. I’ve also shared the chats with her. But this one…I just could not pass up.

    So let’s begin.

    Part 1: Welcome to my world!

    This scammer sent me a friend request on Facebook. Odd, because Alice had already accepted my friend request. So I clicked on the profile and investigated it further.

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    When you first click on it, it looks normal. But you know me. I had to scroll down. It didn’t take long to see these.

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    Now, I could have left this alone. I could have refused the friend request and there’d be no story. But for this guy to try and scam people pretending by to be Alice was just reprehensible. For an added laugh, the Chicken Ranch that was tagged was a poultry farm in Pretoria, South Africa.

    “You called down the thunder! Now you’ve got it! I’m coming, and he’ll is coming with me!”

    So here we go! Nick Vs scammer!

    I accepted the friend request.

    The scammer wasted no time in contacting me on Facebook messenger. After a short conversation, the chat moved to Google Chat, formerly Hangout.

    Now the real fun begins.

    I did let Alice know about this development, and I kept her in the loop. I also shared a few highlights of the chat, which she found amusing.

    This scammer copied and pasted online love sonnets and other such things…stuff that was decidedly un-Alice. Typical stuff from a romance scammer drawing in a victim. After a few days, the scammer starts asking for money. I responded with:

    “Did you forget? I’m coming to see you on Saturday!”

    The scammer: “Oh! You see I’m not there.”

    I went on Google Earth on street mode and screen capped the exterior of the house Alice is at now and sent those pictures to the scammer. The scammer continued to protest they weren’t there, but I knew the schedule.

    What would have been better is if I were actually seeing Alice at that time.

    The scammer relented and said “I will see you soon.”

    The game was afoot. I was gonna make this 419 creep sorry he ever met me.

    To be continued. It gets better.
     
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  2. that is weird why would anyone want to pretend to be a prostitute very interesting I hope no-one tries to pretend to be if they do then they need to come do these line ups for me as well lol sorry to her for that to happen I think its weird for anyone to pretend to be someone else makes no sense to me!!!! good job on being able to stop this guy!!
     
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    Awesome info!!! Thanks @Old Nick for sharing your thoughts and I caught a few that were trying to impersonate me on Twitter. So I changed my Twitter name.[smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif]
     
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    It is a conundrum as to why these scammers pretend to be prostitutes, especially when they themselves are highly offended by the practice. Nigerians often look down on both courtesans and clients. I once got a romance scammer pissed when I mentioned that I see courtesans and this scammer decided to lecture me. Stealing is ok but god forbid anyone carries ashewo.

    I don’t know if I ever stopped this guy, but I wasted a year and a half for him. The story will continue.
     
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    That’s a good tactic. Oftentimes, scammers will steal pictures but say they are someone else entirely. Thank god for Google image reverse searches.
     
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    Part 2: Bedknobs and Bait Cards!

    There is a lot of chat I had to go back through, and Google Chat crashed as I was going back through all this. Not to mention this scammer started a whole new account so there was that chat backlog too. That part isn’t important now but we’ll get to it.

    So the scammer asked me to send $800 in Google Play cards. Now my ex has an Android phone and will give me her empty cards for this undertaking. These are what I call my bait cards. They look legit but have already been cleared of any money so they’re garbage now. I have a collection of empty Google, Apple, Steam, and even Nintendo eShop cards. I have provided many pictures of these to the Scambaiting Forum, and have been told I’m at “oga level” with that. Even the legendary Mr Pricky of Scambait Central fame has used one of my cards. Awesome!

    My mom asked me if I’d drop some mail into the post office box, so I took the opportunity to get pictures of me stuffing my bait cards into an empty envelope and writing a fake address to the ranch on it. The scammer didn’t know the difference. His Chicken Ranch was a poultry farm in Pretoria.

    I then went to the post office and dropped my mom’s bills into the box. I also pretended to drop the empty envelope into the box and got a picture of it. I then continued the bait.

    The scammer asked me to take pictures of the cards and send the pictures.

    Me: I did you one better. I mailed the cards to you.

    Scammer: Why?

    Me: That way, you can enter them yourself.

    The scammer then lectures me on why I’m supposed to just send the codes. Nothing I haven’t read before but if it pisses this scammer off, it’s a win.

    This scammer is either desperate or dense. He kept hanging on and providing entertainment for me and anyone else that read the snippets of the chat I posted.

    This scammer’s persistence caused me to employ another tactic in my playbook…multiple characters!

    Stay tuned for the next chapter! To be continued…
     
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    Thanks @Old Nick for sharing your thoughts and I agree with you!!![smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif]
     
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  9. Omg hahaha I had fun reading this.
    I also love to waste those scammer’s time. :D

    Call them MUGU and they will curse you back. lol
     
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    Very much so! Mugu basically means “big fool.” LOL
     
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    it’s always great to be aware of the people that message us and come into connection with us. Thank you for bringing awareness to other [smilie=heart fill with love.gif][smilie=heart fill with love.gif]
     
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    Part 3: Meet Rikki and Luther

    After several bait cards that went nowhere, I wondered what I could do to frustrate this scammer. Then I realized I could introduce some…shall we say…competition.

    I came up with the character, Rikki.

    I named Rikki after a stripper I knew in Washington State. Rikki was everything I desired in a lover when I was younger. She was an exotic beauty that was sexy defined. With this, I created suitable competition for this scammer.

    For context, this scammer thinks I live in Elko. I don’t know if there are strip clubs in Elko but there are brothels. For the purposes of this bait, Rikki is a stripper. For visual representation of Rikki, I used a picture of Anna Bell Peaks. If she ever made the brothel rounds, I’d for sure book time with her.

    The scammer didn’t take kindly to Rikki. In fact, all scammers seem to hate speaking to multiple people at once. That’s what makes it a great strategy. Confusion is a great tool.

    This scammer didn’t like Rikki. In fact, the two have had heated arguments which resulted in the scammer threatening her life.

    The other character I introduced was Luther, the brother of my character. (If I didn’t mention it before, my scambaiting persona is called Jack Wayne.) Luther is a thief, an addict, a liar, and a criminal. He’s also a smooth talker. Luther has the scammer convinced he’ll send money, then crashes and burns.

    There’s also a theme where I promise to pay the scammer on payday, then when payday rolls around, something happens, and I can’t pay him. Here’s one such scenario.

    Rikki had to go to Reno because her mom died, so Jack had to drive her and her kid there and leave the money in Luther’s hands to send to the scammer.

    Before I go on, I should mention the scammer gave me an address to send cash to, as the Google Play cards were all bad. So I was given an address in San Marcos, Texas.

    Holy shit! This fucker had a money mule! He’s more organized than I thought.

    I looked up the money mule. I wondered wether or not to reach out to him, but ultimately decided against it. Either he’s a victim tricked into this by the scammer, or he’s complicit and a knowing ally. So I left him alone.

    It was up to Luther to send the $800 to the scammer while Jack and Rikki went to Reno. And Luther failed this task! He used the money on drugs, booze, and an escort. This pissed the scammer off and Jack got to hear about it.

    It’s only been a month and a half up to this point, this scammer’s already been through the wringer, and we’ve only just begun! Being that I kept this scammer on my hook for a year and a half, what more can I put this scammer through?

    To be continued…
     
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    Part 4: Luther’s plan, Jack’s accident, and more trouble brewing!

    Things are heating up!

    This scammer has been chatting with three different characters, all played by me. And it’s only gonna get crazier!

    Luther is kind of a useless character, but we’ll see a more devious side. Luther is planning a heist in Vegas, and is not only promising the scammer a huge cut of the money, but also offers to have the scammer live with him. Luther is very much a scumbag, and the character’s prime purpose is to get under a romance scammer’s skin.

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    I know I’m not talking to the real Alice, so I have no problem whatsoever saying that kind of stuff. I will say shit to a scammer I won’t dare say to anyone else, especially people I like! The “cum dumpster fuck puppet” thing started with another scammer previously. That’s a combination of words reserved only for romance scammers.

    Oh, and check out the date on this chat! This part took place on my birthday! :D

    The scammer seemed very excited about Luther’s plan, especially after Luther got kicked out by Jack because Rikki was moving in. Luther stole Jack’s tablet to stay in touch with the scammer. The scammer was still keeping every base covered, however.

    Then came this part.

    Jack gets in a car accident and nearly dies. The scammer seems shocked and ends up praying for Jack’s survival, especially upon hearing he’d died twice in surgery and was resuscitated. More like he’s praying for that money he’s never going to get.

    So the scammer is hanging all of his hopes on Luther, who along with his buddies are planning a huge robbery. In typical Luther fashion, he’s caught, arrested, with the tablet confiscated as evidence. The stolen tablet comes up here and there in this story. It’s also the last we hear from Luther.

    A Vegas detective, James Katuki, is in possession of the tablet, and starts talking to the scammer. I assume the scammer is pissing a pool because Luther implicated them in the robbery. I tried my usual trick of throwing out a Grabify link, but the scammer cursed the detective character out. Katuki will eventually return.

    The scammer gets better news from Rikki that Jack is awake. The scammer won’t be happy for long as they have to wait even longer for their imaginary funds.

    To be continued…
     
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  15. I used to do scambaiting myself. It was long ago, 2009 I think was the last time I did it. I pretended to be a fast food magnate named Howard M. Bergers and I got the scammer to fill out a franchise application for my fictional restaurant chain, Lord Bravery Smoked Meats and Fishes. On another bait, I created a second character, named Ike, who was a second scammer swooping in on the real scammer's victim. I was a carpenter named Lester Digits. At one point I had Les send an email to the real scammer saying "I just sent the money to Ike." and I had Ike send an email taunting the real scammer saying "I have your victim now". Then the real scammer tried to warn Lester.
     
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    I have done that in this particular bait and in others. Scammers don’t like getting scammed, it seems. LOL
     
  17. I want to bait a scammer who's running that scam where he pretends to be a hitman hired to murder you, but is willing to let you live in exchange for money. It seems like it would be fun to be as much of a sniveling, crying baby as I can without actually sending money.
     
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    That one used to be common but I don’t think they do it anymore. It didn’t make the scammers who tried it a lot of money. One of my personal favorites is a chick from the Midwest who’s in Ghana taking care of a sick relative but is looking for a husband. I used to get that one a lot when I was married.
     
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    Part 6: The Whale nightmare!

    Jack has been in and out of consciousness with Rikki and her son, Tyler, by his side. During one particularly loopy phase, Jack had a vivid nightmare. When the scammer contacted him, he got this chat.

    I tried to upload the screen caps, but I didn’t have time.

    I told the scammer about a nightmare I had involving a religious cult that set up a tent in the front yard of my childhood home. I also dreamt I was a child. This cult worshipped a cartoon whale I’d seen on TV. I was drawn into the tent. It was filled with these weird looking guys with no mouths. They grabbed me and threw me down a hole. There I saw the whale! It roared as it rushed toward me and swallowed me! I saw the bodies of others. Some of the cultists. They were slowly being digested as was I. Then I woke up!

    In reality, when the scammer thought I was having lucid dreams on a morphine drip in a hospital bed, I actually took my daughter to get her nails done. The scammer then decided to ask for the Steam card (fuck dude), and I had taken pictures of a Steam card. Some blurry, some with light reflecting off of them. The scammer demanded I take better pictures but I was getting sleepy again.

    After the that chat, my daughter finished up with the nail tech. Her nails were pretty.

    About the dream with the whale…I actually did have that dream in my childhood. I couldn’t sleep one night and I ended up analyzing that dream I had many years ago. I hadn’t given it a thought till then.

    And I hope I freaked that scammer out!

    More to come! Stay tuned!
     
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    Part 7: You’ve Got Mail!

    After the whale nightmare, it’s mostly been stop and go scambaiting. This scammer seemed to give up after each empty bait card, then kept coming back. Frankly, I was getting tired of this asshole and wanted him to realize he’s getting no money from me and to just give up. But no such luck. He kept coming back.

    I wondered what else I could do, so I looked for ideas in the Scambaiting Forum and saw that other baiters sent bogus emails to their scammers. This scammer insisted I (actually Rikki because Jack was still in the hospital) use FedEx to send the money, so I took a page from the book of a Facebook lottery scammer I dealt with previously and created a fake email address for FedEx. So I “sent” the money.

    The scammer started to pester me for the tracking number. I told the scammer to email FedEx, and gave them the address. It took a few days as the scammer wanted me to do all the legwork (lazy motherfucker). Finally, the scammer emails FedEx. My FedEx.

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    The scammer got pissed and asked Rikki to not use FedEx and instead just use Steam cards. Rikki says they’re tight on money, but what scammer has ever cared about their intended victim’s budget? At least Rikki will be getting that money back. That imaginary money, I should say.

    I really wanted this scammer to give up. What’s it going to take?

    To be continued…
     
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    I like the fake FedEx. Nice touch!
     
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    Scammers do it all the time. Why shouldn’t scambaiters? :D
     
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    I’ve been a little busy and there’s still more of this story to tell. Sorry about that. We will get back to more scammer tears when I have some free time.
     
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    Part 8: I kinda feel like somebody’s watching me!

    It’s mostly been stop and go scambaiting. Jack has come home from the hospital and Rikki had found a place her own place in town, so Jack is living alone. I’m not sure the scammer ever liked Rikki, though it looked like they might get close. Tyler likes Jack. He wants Jack to be his new dad.

    I did throw a wrench into the scammer’s plan when I introduced a new character, Lydia. Jack brought Lydia to his apartment on a date. Jack had to make a pit stop, and the scammer messaged at the wrong time. Lydia answered.

    Lydia stated that she doesn’t do well with competition, and instead wanted to set up a puzzle for the scammer. IMG_4314.jpeg

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    The scammer clearly doesn’t like puzzles. LOL

    After a bit, the scammer once again demands I send cash through the mail, since my Steam cards and Google cards keep going empty mysteriously, never mind what happened last time. I decided the time was right for a new development in this story. Jack was now being stalked!

    Jack found a car tailing him from place to place. He was getting worried. He’d called the police but nothing was being done.

    One afternoon, Jack came home from work to find his house had been broken into. The thieves only took the fresh Google cards that Jack had set aside. I don’t know if the scammer was panicking just yet but the best of this part is yet to come.

    The scammer began getting emails from an account named Michael Hunt. (I later changed the name to Simon Adebisi.) The scammer then screen capped the emails and sent them to me. I gotta admit, it was amusing to see the emails I sent from a dummy account and I think the scammer was shitting a brick! Jack had to leave his home for a few days, and he ended up staying with Rikki. The scammer then set up a whole new Google account for Jack to chat with him on, like that will help.

    With the scammer now chatting on a new account, I decided maybe this scammer should worry about what happens to Jack over here.

    Jack eventually moved back home. While at home, Jack answers his door and gets attacked. He’s held down with a blindfold put on him, and the instigator of the attack, Detective James Katuki, begins speaking with the scammer. Katuki takes a knife and starts cutting Jack with it, demanding to know who the scammer really is. I want to say the scammer asked for a picture of Jack bleeding, but as I looked through the chat, it was never said, though I would not put it past the scammer. I’ve had scammers ask for pictures of dead bodies in the past. While the scammer thought Jack was being tortured and near death, I was enjoying a quiet night in.

    Jack didn’t die, though. Someone called the police, so Katuki took out his own men and claimed to have saved Jack’s life. The scammer knows the truth, though. Katuki was still in possession of Jack’s stolen tablet. Luther’s thievery had come back on Jack. The stolen tablet will come up again and will eventually end the bait, but we’re not quite there yet.

    Jack ends up in the hospital again with Rikki keeping a close vigil and the scammer wondering when he’ll get his money. I can’t believe this scammer held on for this long, though I have had another on my hook for 14 months during COVID.

    To be continued…
     
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    Part 9: The third party!

    Despite their earlier hostilities, the oga M Hunt in Nigeria (played by me) reaches out to the scammer and offers to him that they go into business together to scam me out of money. This scammer, hesitant at first, agrees. Jack Wayne sends the money and the oga sends two emails. One to Jack and the other to the scammer.

    The one to Jack:

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    The one to the the scammer:

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    I’m not sure the scammer liked that at all.

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    This scammer has already been through the wringer a few times, but this scammer then asked me if my number was a 702 number.

    HOLY SHIT!!

    This scammer had my Flyp number! How did he know that one? Did I bait this fucker before?

    This was getting weird!

    I had baited PCH scammers on my Flyp number before. I dealt with two guys, then a third. After their ploy had failed, the third man popped up and tried to put a curse on me.

    I was not going to answer that question. I just deflected. After a break, the scammer came back again.

    This was a shorter entry. There is more to come but this is all I had time for right now.

    To be continued…
     
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    Part 10: Ignore, ignore, ignore…damn!

    I tried ignoring the scammer as much as I can. In the few times I answered, I said I’ll get the card soon. This scammer held on. Even Alice was surprised how long this scammer stayed on.

    I was honestly getting bored with this scammer. I tried to piss him off and send him packing. I tried to gaslight this scammer (I sent you money! Did you spend it already?). I tried to deviate from the main focus (I’m going to a WWE show tonight!). I also tried to invoke jealousy (I’m getting laid at a local brothel!).

    One highlight saw Tyler grabbing my phone and chatting with the scammer.

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    I wondered if scammers can use Nintendo eShop cards, and it looks like they can. I’m glad I kept the empties.

    What more can I do with this scammer…?

    To be continued…
     
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    Sorry to keep you hanging! I’ve just been busy!

    Part 11: An old friend?

    I had a visitor staying with me for a few weeks. This scammer decided to ping me while my friend was in the room with me, so I explained the situation with her, and she thought it was hilarious. We then thought of a way to fuck with this scammer, and we came up with another character, someone (imaginary) that would have worked with Alice in the past. This scammer clearly didn’t do any research on who he was impersonating, so away we went.

    We made up the story that one of Alice’s former colleagues was living in the same apartment complex as Jack was, and was visiting Jack. Then we made up all sorts of shit! I, as the other person, mentioned a story about servicing the Governor, and all the other fun we had. I also mentioned that this character was starting at a new brothel called Cactus Jane’s. That’s a name that comes up a lot in my other baits. I also introduced a character made famous in my other baits, Madam Fiona. As the scammer mentions he’s out of work and needs money to get to Nevada.

    The scammer gave up that day and went silent for a bit. A week later, me, as the new unnamed character, sent a message to the scammer about employment at Cactus Jane’s and the scammer in so few words said “go fuck yourself.” So the new character was retired, moving on to the imaginary brothel.

    With Nigerian scammers, I can get away with creating a fictional brothel because they never do any research. It shows when they use pictures of courtesans and porn stars to bait unsuspecting victims.

    After this, another respite aside from the scammer aside from occasional pop up asking for money and me being to broke after bills. At this point, I’m more than a year in. It’s gonna wrap soon.

    To be continued…
     
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    You have a lot of time on your hands haha :p
     
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    12: The final(?) chapter!

    Here we go! This is it!

    I had full month of silence from this scammer. I started to wonder if this scammer had their hooks into someone else so I decided to try to keep the bait alive.

    But how?

    I decided to bring back the stolen tablet narrative. Enough time had passed since Katuki talked to the scammer, so the time was right for that tablet to find its way to a new set of hands. I thought it would be great to have the new owner of the tablet in the state where this scammer claimed to be in. I created Sammy, this super annoying bozo who’s a terminal virgin and a pain in the ass.

    So I sent this.

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    A few days later, the scammer popped up! This prompted me to speak again as two different characters on the same account. Not easy, but it is fun!

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    That scammer certainly outed himself with the Yoruba. According to Captain Nigeria on the Scambaiting Forum, “Oloribukuru” roughly translates to “your head is bad, cursed, and stupid.” I don’t know what “Omo ale” translates to, and Captain Nigeria had no idea either.

    Yoruba is a tonal tribal language that even ones that speak it screw up when they write it. I’m grateful for the translations I have gotten. Google is absolutely no help here.

    Well, it finally happened. I pissed that scammer off enough to give up on me. Well, not quite yet. He came back after a few weeks, but Sammy answered. The scammer was done with me.

    I sent a message to Alice that I’d finally pissed the scammer off to the point of giving up. She was very grateful for this, and thanked me for it. I was glad to do it.

    With that being said, if there’s any scammer pretending to be anyone, I’ll gladly bait that scammer.
     
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  30. Love the part about servicing the Governor!!! :)
     
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    Oh no! I'd seen Alice on TV and she seemed like a wonderful person. Shame that someone was trying to fool you Old Nick
     
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    This reminds me of the time I was blocked by the real Alice Little. At the beginning of 2020 I was planning a nice vacation to Reno and wanted to visit the Bunny ranch. I contacted Alice and arranged a party. She gave me her phone number and I sent her a few texts. Then my plans were destroyed when the casino closed and the Bunny ranch closed to due to a viral outbreak. I deleted her number from my phone.

    A couple of years later, I get a text on my phone that says, "Hi! I'm Alice Little. How are you?". The text I sent back was "Really? You can't fool me you stupid scammer". Shortly after that, I was blocked. You know the face you make when you bite into a lemon and a ghost pepper at the same time? I had that face for a week after I realized that it was the real Alice Little. :(
     
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    True. I kept Alice in the loop about the scammer. She was grateful that not only did this scammer not succeed in robbing me, but I dragged him for a year and a half.
     
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    D’oh!! Ouchies!!

    She is a real sweetheart but they do say dynamite comes in small packages.
     
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    Not really. I’m actually pretty busy with my job, my side hustle, being a weekend dad, now my workout schedule (really sticking to it this time), I only have a few minutes for these scammers, but the more time they spend on me, the less time they have for anyone else.
     
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